We wanted to find out what the profession can say about fatherhood, then and now. As an interlocutor, we have chosen a man who is currently, perhaps, the only one among sociologists who deals with this topic. Dr. Dragan Stanojevic is an assistant professor at the Department of Sociology, Faculty of Philosophy, University of Belgrade. He graduated from two study groups: first at the Department of Ethnology and Anthropology, and then at the Department of Sociology at the Faculty of Philosophy in Belgrade. He defended his doctorate on the topic „Shaping a new fatherhood through the practices of fathers in Serbia“ in 2015 at the Faculty of Philosophy in Belgrade, under the mentorship of prof. Dr. Smiljka Tomanović. His research work is focused on family relationships, youth and children, education, social inequalities, and social integration.

Dragan, how did this topic come about? Actuality, need or something else?
The topic of fatherhood is presently very current in the sociology of the family. One of the reasons is that traditionally the private sphere belonged almost exclusively to women, so when parenting was researched, it was researched from a women’s perspective. Feminism has also contributed to the actualization of the multiple burden of women, as reconciling the private and public spheres has been far more difficult for women than for men. Meanwhile, a lack of men’s perspectives in private sphere research has been noted. As the data indicated that the participation of men in parental responsibilities is gradually increasing, it became interesting and important to examine how they feel in this field, why they are more interested in interacting with the child, and how they harmonize different spheres of their lives. family, partnership, free time). Since this is a doctoral thesis, I came to the topic with the support of my mentor, Professor Smiljka Tomanović.

Who were the respondents?
The study has two parts. The first, which includes a representative sample of fathers in Serbia, based on which I tried to identify which fathers are more active around their children, and the second part, in which interviews were conducted with 24 fathers belonging to the so-called type. „New fatherhood“, which means 1. that they are involved in parental responsibilities at the same level as their spouses/partners, 2. that they are involved at the same level in household responsibilities (cleaning the house, cooking lunch, dinner, etc.), 3 that they have strong values ​​of gender equality, and 4. that their parental identity is very important.

What is a „new fatherhood“?
New fatherhood is not a fully defined concept, but it can be said to indicate a contemporary phenomenon in which the private sphere and parenthood are becoming increasingly important to men. Compared to traditional fatherhood, where the father did not deal with minor children at all, but was a moral role model, or the father during modern times (in our country intensively during socialism) when the key role of the father was to provide for the family and play with children. Today we are increasingly witnessing the emergence of a new sensibility among men who want to be involved in all aspects of their children’s upbringing. Broadly speaking, the new sensibility of the relationship with the child arises due to the changing role of men in modern society. There are three key reasons for this – changes in value frameworks related to gender equality, changes in the position of men in the labor market and changes in partnerships that are more egalitarian and volatile. While modernism still firmly guaranteed a better position in the labor market for men, late modernism in which we live is increasingly gender equalizing (although far from living in a society of equal gender opportunities), calling into question the exclusive role of men as breadwinners. On the other hand, marriage and partnership are increasingly unstable (expressed through more frequent divorces and dissolutions of cohabitation), so that the previous identities of men as „breadwinners“ and as „head of the family“ or „family man“ are not guaranteed. That is why, more and more often, the relationship with a child is perceived as the only lasting relationship, and that is why more is invested in him. It should be said that the „new fatherhood“ does not carry with it the value component „better“, nor that other models of fatherhood represent „bad“ parenting.

Why is detraditionalization important for this notion?
Detraditionalization, as used by Ulrich Beck, indicates the diminishing importance of learned models in late modernity. Then when they are useful, people use them, but when they are not, then they are forced to come up with new ones. And my research has shown that men who want to be involved and caring fathers have no time to emulate and no one to share their experience with. That is why they are thinking of new ways to, as men, get involved in the daily life of their children, to make decisions for them, prepare food, prepare the household and combine that with their professional obligations.

How many fathers in Serbia, based on research, enter the pattern of new fatherhood?
Based on the research of the Institute for Sociological Research from 2008, only a rough estimate can be made that it is less than 5% of fathers. This year we will repeat the research, and I expect that there will be significantly more „new fathers“ because during the last decade there has been, it seems to me, a certain generational turnaround, especially among the urban population.

What changes are happening at the level of paternal practices that are?
At the level of practice, changes in Serbia are happening rather slowly, but they are happening in all segments of private life. The biggest changes are happening at the level of fun and interactive activities with children (play and going out), more and more often fathers function as a bridge between children and institutions (they take them to kindergarten, school, and extracurricular activities). children (cleaning the barn, cleaning the children’s room, dressing / swaddling, etc.) and hiring around household chores.

If so, what are they like? Forced or eager?
Changes are part of the process of adapting to new situations, relationships and values. Today, (mostly) values ​​have been achieved that a woman can work, have autonomy, the right to divorce, live in an extramarital union, the right to her own body, etc. As such, they are accepted by the new generations that are adapting to them, either by devising how to redefine male-female relationships, either by having models around them or in popular culture. Likewise, when men become fathers, they respond on the one hand to the expectations of the environment and on the other hand to how they see themselves in their new role.

If we say that the father is present, what are the dimensions of that presence, in what manifestations does that presence take place?
The presence of parents takes place on several levels. Attendance refers to participation in various aspects of the life of the child and family, and includes play and learning process, emotional exchange, care (food preparation, children’s rooms, cleaning, etc.) care (communication with educators, teachers, doctors, etc.), care for the safety of the child at home and away from home, material security of the family, etc. While the traditional presence of men as fathers has most often been exhausted through the material security of the family, today when we talk about presence we recognize that fathers are increasingly involved in all these dimensions of children’s lives.

Explain to us the concept of family transition and how fathers behave during that transition, what do the research results say?
Family transition refers to the stages that a family goes through as a group during its existence, and includes meeting couples, having fun, starting a life together, thinking about parenthood, making a decision, pregnancy, first child, growing up (up to 2 years, before departure to school, school child), departure of the child from home, etc. In parallel with the family transition, individual transitions take place, that is, getting into new roles – spouses and parents. In the research I conducted, the fathers testify that the transition to the parental role was challenging, demanding, but also a source of satisfaction. Most testify that parenting is the best thing that has happened to them in their lives, but also that they had to completely change their previous way of life and „repackage“ their priorities. This process is marked by „seriousness“, ie taking responsibility for others, which practically means that they work more to earn for the family, but also to spend more time at home, with the family.

Can you list some results that would be most interesting to our readers? Those results that may have been a positive surprise, but also those that could, perhaps, be worked on?
The gender dynamics between partners and setting boundaries that have the function of defending gender identities are interesting. For example, all the men I interviewed are very gender-sensitive and point out that there is no difference between what men and women can and should do. However, most of them have some activity in the house, such as ironing or washing dishes, which they refuse to do. These results tell us that there are certain limits set by men and which can be the result of gender, patriarchal hegemony, but perhaps also specific dynamics of couples (it is possible that a woman refuses to drive a car, so the dynamics of division of labor is gender conditioned). Also, when men work full time and their wives do not work or have flexible working hours, it is women who take on more responsibilities at home and around children. When the situation is reversed, so men have flexible work engagements and more free time, they take over only their half, and women are still expected to do their part of parenting and housework, without commitments to greater work engagement.

How will fatherhood develop further, is there any hint in the research?

We are witnessing that men are increasingly involved in the private sphere because they perceive the relationship with the child as potentially the most stable relationship they have in life, and this is a trend that will surely continue. However, this inclusion may call into question the traditional role of the mother in this area, who dominated in the private sphere, ie the woman who realized her identity as a mother and wife. The desire of fathers to become involved in all aspects of a child’s life can create a „battlefield“ of the private sphere because they will also want to ask themselves about things that are important for the upbringing and education of children. Previous research in the West indicates that when men want to get involved in the private sphere, they take on the role of a „junior helper“ who should help with children, but not ask much about important things. It is already noticeable that men often do not like such a situation and that they want to be equal workers.

Let the message end to the families

Listen to each other, talk and be patient.

Tatjana Radić Milutinović spoke for the portal Prvi Put S Ocem

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